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About Derek Ouellette

Derek is a student of Classical Civilizations at the University of Windsor and the Marketing Manager for a Christian bookstore. He lives in Windsor Ontario and has been married since 2007 to a beautiful woman named Yecenia.

New Guitar… Finally!

I’ve been hunting for a new guitar for, well, about a year now. A few years back I read Dave Ramsey’s Total Money Makeover and – in a zealous moment of ill-timed gazelle intensity – I sold my “Baby Blue”; a thin body Yamaha semi-acoustic guitar. It was the best guitar I ever owned, had been borrowed by semi-professional musicians for live shows and held sentimental value to my wife (I sang her a song I wrote at our wedding reception with that guitar).

I still own a beat-up (though nice sounding) Takamine twelve-string, but I’ve been longing for another acoustic, something similar to my Yamaha. Well I’ve been causally keeping my eyes open for about a year now and this Friday….

Thursday: let’s back up a day. Thursday I was rushing in to work and I asked my wife if she could swing by the local music shop and pick up new strings for my 12-string guitar. This is because Friday was “worship practice” and I was to participate as a guest on this Sunday’s team. But when I got home Thursday after work I saw that she got me the wrong kind.

So Friday morning I woke up and headed over to the music shop to exchange the strings. But as I was accustomed to doing, I decided to browse the acoustic room, fiddling on this guitar and that. Then just before I left, I saw this (ah hum) “burnt-toast” (technically, “Sunburst”) looking thin-body semi-acoustic guitar with a built in tuner. I liked the sound. I liked it even more after I plugged it in (it sounds best on my Fender amp, but I had to get it home to find that out), and the price tag was inviting. This was the one.

I called my wife – we have an agreement that any personal spending over $100 would be approved by both – and she agreed that I should get it. I used it this weekend at church and was thrilled. It’s not my “Baby Blue”, but it’s the closest to it that I’ve fiddled with in years.

Very happy. :)

Submit One To Another? No, But…

An article by Andrew Perriman recently came to my attention where – after affirming a total egalitarian worldview – he goes on to expose some common weak arguments egalitarians often make. In the process, however, he offers a particularly interesting interpretation of Ephesians 5:22 ff.:

Paul urges the Ephesians not to get drunk, to sing Christian songs, to give thanks for everything, and to submit “to one another out of reverence for Christ”. He then instructs wives to “submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord” (5:22), children to obey their parents (6:1), and servants to obey their earthly masters (6:5). Egalitarians would like to think that Paul is advocating mutual submission, but this seems unlikely. In the three categories of relationship that follow submission or obedience is in one direction only, which suggests that “to one another” means “according to the relationships of inequality that prevail amongst you”. However, I think Paul’s language does push us to ask why such submission is enjoined:

He goes on to source his own book, Speaking of Women: Interpreting Paul:

The particular emphasis of verse 21 extends into verse 22, where the omission of the verb indicates quite strongly, I think, that subordination within the household is more an accepted fact than a deliberate objective, and that it is rather the indirect object (‘to their own husbands’) and in particular the manner of subordination (‘as to the Lord’) that are of primary concern to Paul. So his argument is not, ‘Be subordinate rather than equal or independent’ but ‘Be subordinateas to the Lord, rather than resentfully or from some less worthy motive’. He is not teaching them to be subordinate but how to deal with the subordination that society generally expected of them. Norbert Baumert… says, ‘The actual ethical-theological statement of the apostle is probably: “accept the position appropriate to you under the contemporary circumstances”.’

To repeat the imperative: He is not teaching them to be subordinate but how to deal with the subordination that society generally expected of them. It’s an interpretation worth pondering anyways.

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Responding To Piatt’s Response To Piper

Over a week ago Rachel Held Evans brought to our attention a statement made by John Piper who concluded “that God has given Christianity a masculine feel”. Evans challenged her male audience to write a response to Piper and I wanted to do just that, but I’ve been so busy lately that the best I could do was follow the discussion from a distance.

Some of the blog articles responding to Piper have been well written and/or well argued. Many of them use Galatians 3:28 as their “linch-pin” argument which seems pretty shallow to me, but it’s so common that you just have to shrug your shoulders and move on.

But yesterday another article came to my attention by Christian Piatt written on Tony Campolo’s Red Letter Christians community blog. From the start the article comes off as being well seasoned and even-handed, but that soon fades. While Piatt makes a few good points here and there, they are overshadowed by arguments that make his arguments against Piper sound temerariously ironic.

Before I go any further let me make one thing crystal clear: I do not agree with John Piper. But in this post I am about to disagree with an influential critic of Piper because I worry that we – the non-Piper-cubs – have ourselves developed a “tribal mannerism”. We want to pat anybody on the back who writes against Piper or Driscoll just for writing against them. I have to say; if that is all it takes to get popular among us then that is dreadfully doleful.

Call it my constant desire for the via media or my tendency to resist being forced with everyone else into either one corner or another, but I’m not going to support nonsense whether it comes from a Piperfied Calvinist or a Red-Letter Lib[1].

Piatt is responding mostly to Piper’s claims that “God revealed Himself in the Bible pervasively as king not queen; father not mother. Second person of the Trinity is revealed as the eternal Son not daughter; the Father and the Son create man and woman in His image and give them the name man, the name of the male. God appoints all the priests in the Old Testament to be men; the Son of God came into the world to be a man; He chose 12 men to be His apostles; the apostles appointed that the overseers of the Church be men; and when it came to marriage they taught that the husband should be the head.”

For whatever reason Christian Piatt felt “called” to reply – and debunk – every point John Piper makes above, and this is precisely why I am writing this post. Do we really have to throw out all of the babies when we drain all of the dirty tubs?

Anyhow. I digress.

1) In response to Piper’s observation that God consistently reveals himself as King not Queen, and father not mother, Piatt makes the argument:

“This assumes that humanity had no hand in writing the Bible, no cultural bias, no agenda, and that we simply transcribed what was given to us verbatim. If this is the case why, then, was Jesus compelled to challenge the ancient laws throughout his ministry”.

I don’t think Piper holds to dictation theory, though I could be wrong. But the conclusions Piatt draws causes me to question the competency of his own hermeneutic. Jesus did not – as Piatt’s argument hinges – challenge the ancient laws, rather what he did was challenged how his contemporaries interpreted those laws and at times he reinterpreted those laws in light of himself. So no, Jesus did not set about to correct the fallible cultural biases of the man-written Hebrew Bible.[2]

He goes on in this argument to accuse Piper of “conveniently neglecting” a hermeneutic that respects cultural context “when it serves our (read “his”) own agenda”. This is patently ironic since later on Piatt makes the ridiculous effort to convince us that Simon Peter’s mother-in-law was a priest (tell me who again is working with an agenda?). But I’ll get to that.

2) In response to the fact that Jesus came as a man Piatt argues, “Jesus had no easy road in sharing his gospel message. How do we think it would have been received if it had been delivered by a woman in that place and time? That Jesus was male was a cultural necessity.” Again, really? Did Jesus have any issue with going against his culture? Piatt says that Piper’s argument here “does not support the case that God favors testicles over ovaries.” Neither, Piatt, does your argument that Jesus’ penis helped his message spread. It certainly didn’t prevent Jesus from appearing FIRST to women to spread the victorious news of his resurrection! To use Piatt’s own question, “would [that message of his resurrection] have been received if it had been delivered by a woman in that place and time?” And yet, Piatt, God still chose that avenue.

3) Piatt’s response to Piper’s claim that “the Father and Son created man in his image and gave them the name man, the name of the male” is, I think, well put. I agree with Piatt that when God created man and woman in his image, it was because God has both masculine and feminine qualities. However, Piatt goes on to water down the – ironically so – contextual use of the Hebrew word for ADAM in Genesis one, suggesting that it can be translated “red”. “So God created red in His (Red’s) own image, in the image of God He (Red) created the color, red and fe-red(?) He (Red) created them”. The point Piatt is attempting to make – and I agree with him here – is that the Hebrew word for man in this context is more gender-inclusive, human. But he reaches too far to make that point in my opinion.

4) In responding to Piper’s observation that all of the priests in the Old Testament were men, Piatt makes several points. 1) He subtly observed that the “priests (all men) said God told them to do it that way.” This is one of the rubs of the whole argument: God did not actually tell the priests to do it that way, rather the priests schemed a great plan to keep power out of women’s hands by coming up with an elaborate lie about something God said. Yup. 2) He then moves on to tell us about all of the women actively involved in Jesus’ ministry. Who’s disputing that? 3) It is here where Piatt reaches for Simon’s mother-in-law. Jesus healed her and she begins to “serve” them or “minister” to them. From that Piatt wants to declare her a vicar? His argument is based on the Hebrew word “Komehr” saying: “The Hebrew word used to describe her is Komehr… it’s interesting to note that the word Komehr can be translated as: priest, deacon, minister, pastor, preacher, parson, vicar, or can be applied to ANY positions of authority within Christianity.” Well, actually komehr does not describe Simon’s mother-in-law, it describes something she did. Big difference. (Actually the word used in Mark is the Greek word diēkonei; from that I think Piatt is trying to guess what Hebrew word Jesus would have used, but I think most scholars believe he spoke Aramaic, not Hebrew.)

Curiously, Piatt admits that, “later on Paul and other church leaders determined that men should be in charge, which is consistent with the culture of the time.” Well, I have to give it to Piatt, most egalitarians are struggling to make Paul like them, whereas Piatt has concluded outright that Paul patently was not.

5) Finally Piatt attempts to debunk the notion that God depicts himself as “he” by reminding us that God is spirit and that the Hebrew word for spirit, Ruah, is a feminine word. But how does that prove anything? The Hebrew word Ruah is also used when talking about the spirit of man. Are all humans actually females on the inside? Some men who have gotten sex changes have said, “on the outside I was a man, but on the inside I was a woman;” should all men get sex changes? Are all men really women on the inside? This argument is tenuous at best. Words are gender specific in other languages. In some instances the same word can be masculine or feminine depending on its conjugation or context. To build an argument for the sex of God based on the gender of a particular word in a particular language is to make a really sad case.

Piatt concludes his post by saying “I could go on”. Well let’s be glad he doesn’t because things weren’t looking too good.

I need to reaffirm that I do not agree with John Piper. But if we can’t do better than what Piatt has done above, we might as well pack in our arguments today and go home. I share certain presuppositions with Piper that I think Piatt does not, particularly a high view of scripture (though not at all in terms of dictation theory). My primary problem with John Piper’s argument is not that he observes that Jesus chose twelve men called disciples and apostles or that God is often depicted in masculine terms or that the priests in the Old Testament were all men or that God created man then women. My problem with Piper’s argument is what he leaves out, that God also metaphorically depicts himself in feminine terms, that Jesus surrounded himself with women and that there were leading women in both the Old Testament and the New. I cannot affirm Piper’s conclusion “that God has given Christianity a masculine feel” (whatever “feel” is supposed to mean in this context) because Piper strategically reaches for only half of the story in order to make that claim.

I like to think – for my own part – that God has given Christianity the “feel” of a new humanity in Christ. Though often we don’t bear that out in our day to day lives.


[1] I don’t know if Christian Piatt is a theological liberal, but I’m inclined to think that he probably is based on what I’ve read of his. I admit I could be wrong here, so I’m not going to press or pursue that claim.

[2] This point, by the way, has no bearing on the fact that God is typically depicted in male terms because Jesus said nothing about the subject.

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Ancient-Future Series: Contributing My Part

There is a six week series held here in Windsor at Central United Church that has been designed to amalgamate the arts, music and word along with the blending of ancient traditions, our future hope and how all of that ties into our contemporary lives.

The layout week by week looks like this:

Jan 27 – GOD SHOWING UP (Incarnation)
Feb 3 – GOD THOUGHTS (Contemplation)
Feb 10 – TRANSFORMING LIGHT (Holiness)
Feb 17 – ORPHANS, WIDOWS & PRESENCE (Social Justice)
Feb 24 – WIND, FIRE, RAIN (Charismatic)
Mar 2 – ON A MISSION FROM GOD (Evangelical)

I’ve been invited to be a part of this and asked to take a look at the Holiness Tradition which is – I think appropriately and affectionally so – titled Transforming Light. If you can I would invite you to come to this event.

If you plan to attend I’d like to give you a quote to think about ahead of time:

“People often suggest, or even simply assume, that one of the main things Jesus came to do was to tell us more clearly what the rules were and to give us a wonderful example of how to keep them… Which then runs into difficulties, because people quickly discover that they can’t keep them, and so a different mode breaks in: Jesus came to bring forgiveness for our rule-breaking; but once we’ve grasped that, we have to go back to rule-keeping again.” – N.T. Wright

Do you agree or disagree with the assessment in this quote? What part (if any) does rule-keeping play in the Christian life?

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Another Silly Customer Story: Heaven

A customer was browsing our store recently and as she was passing by an end cap displaying Randy Alcorn’s book Heaven she said, “Ooh, another story of someone who went to Heaven?” as she took it off the shelf and began to read the back. “No”, I said. “It’s a book about heaven, but Alcorn has not gone there himself.” “Eww” she said as she promptly repositioned the book on the shelf.  ”Why would anybody want to read a book about Heaven written by someone who hasn’t even been there?

No joke. She actually did just say that.

Although her question was meant to be rhetorical, I decided to answer it anyways. “Well because in those other books people will tell you that they went to heaven, but in Alcorn’s book you will find out what the Bible actually says on the subject”.

Oh“, she snarled, “there’s that.” Conversation ended.

Ya, there’s that. You know. This little thing we Protestants like to call sola scriptura. My concern – and desire – is not to pick on this one customer, but to observe a growing trend among conservative evangelicals. When books like 90 Minutes in Heaven and Heaven is For Real rise to the top of Bestseller charts in North America, and sustain their presence there, while those very same buyers avoid books like Alcorn’s Heaven or Wright’s Surprised by Hope, there’s a problem. A serious problem.

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Free Will vs. Predestination: A Rose Publication Delusive

Rose Publications often puts out good stuff. Great charts and maps and quick reference material for Sunday School teachers, Bible Study leaders and also the curious lay person. In my store one of their most successful product lines are their Rose Publishing Pamphlets we have on a spin rack. They are thin glossy pamphlets that often open up to about seven or eight folds and cover a range of subjects from the “Life of Moses” to “Comfort for Loss” to “How to Study the Bible” to “Evidence of the Resurrection”.

But seldom – if ever – have I noticed a Rose Publication pamphlet enter the foray of intra-Christian controversial subjects. So I came to a speeding halt today when I noticed a pamphlet on the top rack titled “Free Will vs. Predestination” and a picture of Calvin on one side (with the designation “Calvinism” under it) with a picture of Arminius on the other (and the designation of “Arminianism” under that one).

Normally I have found that Rose Publication offers fairly reliable historical overviews, but not so here. In fact, I’d suggest that how Rose presents the history of “Predestination” and “Free Will” is down right deceptive.

The middle of the pamphlet opens up to two comparisons of the history of each, “Predestination in History” and “Free Will in History”. This history is laid out like this:

Around 400 A.D. Augustine concluded that human nature was corrupt by the effects of sin. Pelagius responded to Augustine at about that same time but – the publication is sure to emphasize – the church “declared Pelagius’s teaching heretical”.

This is the presupposition the chart works out of. Trace Augustine’s line until you get to the great reformers. Trace Pelagius’ line until you get to Arminius. The implications are clear. The heresies of Pelagius live on through Arminius and all other Free Will advocates.

This delusive approach is reminiscent of the person who will try to prove that the KJV goes right back to Paul but that the NIV is corrupted by Alexandrian heretics. In other words, these are ridiculous distortions of history.

See, if the pamphlet really wanted to present an unbiased history of predestination (by which it means particular predestination which is one way to understand the biblical teaching, but not the only way) then why does it begin in 400 A.D.? The controversy between a view of particular predestination and free will can be found in the Church Fathers – all of whom held to free will. Some of them vigorously debated some leading Gnostic heretics who held to the view of particular predestination. But that doesn’t seem to be a part of the story Rose Publication is interested in telling.

I don’t intend to suggest that particular predestination is heresy, Gnosticism was condemned for other reasons. I’m simply pointing out that this pamphlet goes beyond bias and is actually Calvinistic propaganda.

The “In’s” and “Out’s” of Church Discipline

One of the elements I found disconcerting around the fiasco involving some leaders at Mars Hill and a guy named Andrew is how some people tended to react not so much against the abuse that resulted from that situation, but against the very idea of church discipline in and of itself.

As one blogger, for instance, insisted that we try and model church governance, not according to the biblical prescription, but after “the world of Alcoholics Anonymous — which I think provides one of the best models for anyone trying to understand what the church could and should be”, he said.

Why? He explains, because with AA “nobody can kick you out”.

Other blogs – if not the bloggers, certainly their readers – expressed similar sentiment. I think this goes back to the growing trend of resisting the very idea of an “in” and “out” when discussing the family of God.

I agree very much that we should resist the soapbox of thinking and declaring that we can know for sure who are in and who are out (though Jesus did say that outsiders will know who his disciples are by their love for each other, John 13:35).

But that doesn’t mean that there is not an “in” and an “out” of God’s family. Paul’s whole discussion of justification by faith is rooted in the very idea of an “in” and “out”; i.e. those who have faith in Christ are justified by Christ’s faithfulness are “in”. That’s what Galatians and Romans teach.

When we talk about “church” (or “Church”) we tend to think in terms of infrastructures like Protestant denominations, the Catholic Magisterium or the like. When the New Testament uses the word “church” (ekklesia), it means something slightly, but significantly, different. It is either referring to the general organic Body of Christ (i.e. all believers everywhere at all times regardless of what communion they fellowship with) or a local gathering of believers.

When Paul writes about putting a person who is engaged in unrelenting sin outside of the “church” (1 Cor 5), he means specifically outside of their fellowship. And two reasons are given for this:

1) So that the person may (i.e. hopefully) be saved (vs. 5).

2) So that the rest of the community does not water down their holy lives as well (vs. 6-8).

One element the church, I think, is neglecting today is an emphasis on holiness. This is probably a reaction to the subculture of the 90’s that insisted on “do not handle, do not taste, do not touch” (Col 2:21) type legalism. In our desire to be accepting, loving and tolerating, we forget that God did not become man merely to make this world better, he came to make this world new. And, of course, God’s new is better, but better is not necessarily God’s new. We can create a better world where death and resurrection are not necessary. But Paul, in this very text, points specifically to “Christ, our Passover Lamb”.

Christ died and rose again in order to be the first fruits of the new creation that we too might participate in that new creation, even now (1 John 4:17). It is all about transformation (2 Cor 3:18). Transformation of person, character, and glory. It’s about reflecting God and being the Body of Christ.

The family of God is not some wishy-washy free for all. Rather it is expensive and radically sacrificial.

Dealing with unrepentant sin, removing it even, is sometimes necessary for the sake of the individual and – perhaps more importantly – for the Body of Christ as a whole. The family of God is not a place where the perfect can join. It is, however, the place where we are called to become perfect (Matt 5:48, 1 Peter 1:16).

Around The (Christian) Blogosphere…

Here’s some news from around the (Christian) Blogosphere.

Jana Riess tells us her Top 5 Reasons Book Authors Should Blog.

Kurt Willems shows us a classic hymn and suggests that it could be titled “Love Wins”. He also points out that Clark Pinnock wrote a book on inclusivism by the same title. The hymn is called “There’s A Wideness In God’s Mercy“.

Jefferson Bethke posted a Youtube rap video titled “Why I Hate Religion But Love Jesus“. Donald Miller endorses the video. Kevin DeYoung rebukes it verse by verse. Jeff repented of his video. Catholic rapping home boys joined the discussion with holy beat of their own. The whole riffraff is summarized by Eryn Sun here.

Trevin Wax officially moved into the Gospel Coalition neighbourhood.

Do you have to read a book cover to cover if you plan to review it?

Rob Bell Dot Com? Well, in case you didn’t know it, Derek Ouellette Dot Com too. (I don’t know how new Bell’s dot com is, it might very well not be new.)

Biology Professor Justin Topp begins to review Peter Enns book, The Evolution of Adam.

Brain LePort posts videos of Evans and Erhmans debate.

The Rev. Roger Wolsey writes Why Mark Driscoll Needs An Elephant:

As I understand it, in India where rural people live and work with elephants, they’ve come to learn things about elephant behavior. Like humans, elephant calves stay close to their mothers side longer than most other animals. When young male elephants are finally sent forth on their own, they sometimes form wild gangs that terrorize villagers with their rampages.

The villagers have learned that introducing a fully grown bull elephant into the gang of hoodlums mellows them out almost instantly. They thrive when there’s a large male around who they all know could kick their butts (that’s the paradigm that Driscoll operates out of). It’s not really about the potential to kick-ass. It’s that they respect a fully grown mature male and know that they can learn much about how to socialize from being around him. They learn patience, self-control, and they blossom into maturity.

I would submit that

we need to introduce the Christian equivalent of some bull elephants into Driscoll’s village where he is on a rampage.

I’m willing to be part of such a team…though I’m fully aware that I’m still maturing myself, aside from being in ministry for 17 years and having served a wide range of churches. While not particularly big in stature, I’m disproportionately strong for my size and age. I’m currently a fit 43 and weigh in at 155 lbs and can bench press 230lbs (if you give me a couple of months to work back up to it — I’ve been doing a lot of yoga recently).

Is this the future of the library (Below)?

The Magna Charta of Galatians 3:28 and “Women In The Ministry”

I’m going to say something here that may be a little controversial. I agree with John Armstrong when he said, “I am persuaded that both sides of this [egalitarian/complementarian] debate miss important things here [in Galatians 3:28]…” (How I Changed My Mind About Women In Leadership, p.27).

I think egalitarians often stretch this text to its breaking point when we reach for it as a sort of “trump” card in the debate regarding women in the ministry, particularly because “this text is not primarily about the ministry. The context is about being the ‘children of God.’” (Ibid.) Egalitarians tend to reach for this verse – our magna charta – more than any other passage. And every time I read one of us do that I roll my eyes and huff, “if we can’t do better than this, we might as well pack up our biblical arguments now.

1. Not About The Ministry: The text is primarily answering the question of who are the people of God and what does that mean for how they socially interact with one another (i.e. eating together). Paul’s point is that there is one family, not two. “Distinctions of race, ethnicity, social status, and gender must not divide the Church!” (Ibid.) As Jews tended to say, in that context, if you are a gentile you cannot be a part of God’s family. Paul is saying, one’s participation in God’s family does not depend on race, ethnicity, social standing or gender. Of course that women are Christians too is a de facto, Paul’s point is simply that if one has faith in Christ, one is a Christian no matter what. That’s the main point.

2. Is About Equal Footing: The Bible has much to say on the subject of women in the ministry. For that reason alone it is dangerous to appeal to Galatians 3:28 as a trump card because it exposes too quickly our eagerness to defend our position regardless, really, of what the Bible has to say objectively on the matter. Armstrong quotes N.T. Wright here in observing that “the ground is level at the cross”. That’s the point of Galatians 3:28 (which ties in very closely with our first point).

So far, whether we like it or not, the complementarian position has the higher ground. In interpreting it as we just did (which is contextually the correct way to interpret it), they are paying the context its due respect (we are not doing that when we try to make it about “women in leadership”). The passage is talking about “who’s in and who’s out”. It is not talking about role’s in the ministry. But having said that, Armstrong points out that this passage does in fact have something to say on the subject that both sides of this discussion often miss. The passage, in connection with Paul’s meta-narrative theology, is deeply eschatological.

3. Is Eschatological: Armstrong points out that in this debate both sides tend to point back to the garden, which is fine, but he reminds us that the major theme running through the Bible, and in fact, through Paul’s letters, is the subject of renewal. He says, “this is a good place to insist that the order of creation has been renewed and is being renewed in Jesus Christ.” (Ibid.) That of course doesn’t solve the debate, rather it shifts it back to the garden and asks, what was the original state and goal pre-sin? Then it uses whatever conclusions that come out of that and projects it into the Age to Come, asking, how will that renewal look on the New Earth? Finally it turns to the present and asks, since we’re in the “Already but Not Yet” stage, how does this eschatological order play out practically among the people of God today?

Every time I read some egalitarian say ‘well of course women can be head pastors, just look at Galatians 3:28” I feel like tossing the book across the room. I feel the same, now, when complementarians think that Galatians 3:28 has nothing to add to the subject. I think if we are to appeal to Galatians 3:28 in this discussion, both sides need to come at it with the questions just raised.

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