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		<title>&#8220;Dead&#8221; Means&#8230; What? (Moving Past An Arminian/Calvinist Impasse)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek Ouellette</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Lost-season1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5518" title="Lost-season1" src="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Lost-season1-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>When Christians have debated an issue as important as this one for as long as we have (dating back to the fourth century), I become convinced not that one side is right and the other wrong, but rather that it is possible – in fact, <em>probable</em> – that we are asking the wrong questions in the first place.</p>
<p>I don’t pretend even for a moment that I am able to move the conversation along any (for who am I but a molecule in the ocean!). But I can at least move the conversation along in my own mind and sphere of influence. And though this issue has been debated by some of the greatest minds in church history, that fact doesn’t intimidate me since even great minds can get stuck in the muck of a certain crippling way of seeing things.</p>
<h3>Using the Right Word the Wrong Way</h3>
<p>I think that one of the fundamental impasses we face in the “Calvinist/Arminian” discussion revolves around the word “dead”. That word is critical to a Protestant (or, at least, Reformed) soteriology. Some use the phrase “Total Depravity” while others prefer “Original Sin” or “Imputed Transgression”. Paul the apostle preferred the phrase, “dead in your transgressions and sins” (Ephesians 2:1). As you should be able to see, all of the other phrases are <em>interpretations</em> of Paul’s word, <em>dead</em>. For the Calvinist/Arminian debate, Total Depravity is the big one, so it’s the one I’ll focus on in this article.</p>
<p>So here is the question that needs to be asked: <em>when Paul uses the word “dead”, what does he mean?</em></p>
<p>At the base level I think everyone agrees that “dead” means that nobody can get to God on his or her own. This point is emphasized in our soteriology to ward off any hint of Pelagianism. It also happens to be a keynote in the standard gospel presentation. We are saved by the grace of God <em>alone</em>, not by works (Eph. 2:8-9). The proof in the pudding is the fact that we are dead, and dead people are well, <em>dead</em>. No breathing, no tasting, and most important of all, no decision-making. But the second part of that Ephesians stanza is the element of faith. The grace of God is appropriated through <em>faith</em>. And this is where the debate begins to heat up.</p>
<p>Let’s take the common analogy of the person drowning/drowned in the ocean. By the Arminian telling, the person is wholly unable to save him or herself. No amount of swimming, no amount of “work” can get him or her to safety. When the rescue helicopter arrives and a lifesaver is thrown down to the person with the words “Free Gift: The Grace Of God” written on it, the drowning individual has a choice, take hold of the lifesaver by faith, and live (since faith is how the grace of God is appropriated according to Eph. 2:8-9), or to not take hold of the lifesaver, and die.</p>
<p>By the Calvinist telling, the person in the ocean is not drowning, but has drowned. There is “no life in him; his lungs are filled with water; his heart has stopped; he is stone cold. His eyes are closed and his ears cannot hear. Fallen man is, in the words of the apostle Paul, ‘dead in trespasses and sin’” (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=EPCStzHS33w" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded_amp_v=EPCStzHS33w&amp;referer=');">here</a>). So when the rescue helicopter arrives and throws out the lifesaver – the free saving grace of God – something else has to happen first. “Why?  Because dead men can’t do anything… man is dead. His will is dead. He is, in the words of the Lord Jesus, a servant or slave to sin” (John 8:34).</p>
<p>For the Calvinist, the person must first be made alive before they can exercise faith and take hold of the life preserver, which is the grace of God.</p>
<p>The Arminian will then turn to prevenient grace and claim that the Spirit of God enables <em>all</em> men to have faith, but men need to exercise that faith in order to appropriate God’s saving grace. For Calvinists this amounts to a denial of Total Depravity. Rather than everyone being <em>dead</em> in their transgressions and sins, they are all <em>alive</em> in their transgressions and sins, able, at the very least, to choose God. They are drowning, but not drowned (semi-Pelagianism). The Arminian – if he is smart – will then spin the argument around and ask the Calvinist how it is that a “dead” person can “taste of the heavenly gifts” (Hebrews 6:4)? How can a dead person taste anything since there is, as Jerry Johnson so elegantly put it (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=EPCStzHS33w" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded_amp_v=EPCStzHS33w&amp;referer=');">here</a>), “no life in him; his lungs are filled with water; his heart has stopped; he is stone cold. His eyes are closed and his ears cannot hear.” The person is “stone cold”. He cannot see or hear; presumably he cannot taste either. Now of course both sides have their counter arguments, and those counter arguments have counter arguments of their own. But the point is this:</p>
<p><em>The whole debate hinges on a particular understanding of the word “dead” and that particular understanding is, in my opinion, dead wrong!</em></p>
<h3>Two Ways of Speaking of “Death”</h3>
<p>As illustrated in the discussion above, “death” is clearly conceived of as the spiritual equivalent of physical death. As the person who is six feet under is unable to see, hear, taste or make any choices, so the person who is spiritually dead is also unable to do those things spiritually. This is obviously the most common way we talk about death and so it’s a natural assumption that Paul had this very analogy in mind. But did he? We need to go back and ask ourselves <em>what Saint Paul really said</em>.</p>
<p>Look up “dead” in any dictionary and you’ll see right away a myriad of definitions. But most of those definitions convey really only one of two basic concepts. First many of the definitions convey the idea of <em>inanimate</em> as illustrated in the idioms “He came to a dead stop” or “that town is dead”. <em>Lifeless</em>. When the Bible speaks of death in the natural sense that is simply what it means. It never explores questions about a person’s postmortem ability to taste or hear or see or choose. Even if we say that those things are implied in the natural inanimateness of a dead man, they are still questions we bring to the text that the Bible is not concerned about.</p>
<p>The second concept conveyed by the idea of “death” is <em>separation</em>. When a loved one dies we don’t mourn because of the person’s new state of inanimateness. We don’t grieve because the person can no longer taste or hear or see or touch or think or choose. We grieve – usually – because we sense a <em>loss</em>. There is a separation in the relationship. We say they are “gone” or that they have “departed”. Even while their physical body is still present – like say at the funeral – we still know that they are “gone” and that there is a <em>relational separation</em>. It’s not enough that they are simply with us physically; we need them to be <em>alive</em> with us. Some people try to deal with this separation by clinging to physical items that help “connect” them to the deceased person. Others may take a more extreme measure and seek mediums and other avenues by which they can reconnect with the spirit of the deceased person. A common idiom used convey this idea of death is when, for example, a father might yell at his rebellious daughter, “<em>that’s it, you’re dead to me!</em>” and the daughter might yell back as she storms out of the house for the last time, “<em>I hate you, you’re dead to me!</em>” The language of “death” in this common example is clearly a separation and a broken relationship.</p>
<h3>Death as a Biblical Motif of Separation</h3>
<p>The biblical metanarrative is told through certain motifs that drive the main plotline forward. Those main motifs include catchwords like “land” and “exile”, “blessing” and “curse” and “life” and “<em>death</em>” among others. Usually the context will tip us off as to whether the word is being used as metanarrative motif or not. Typically if the passage is a covenantal text or if it involves recreation, salvation, restoration or any related topics, those are good signs that the word – in our discussion, <em>death</em> – is a metanarrative motif.</p>
<p>Both “death” in the inanimate or natural sense <em>and</em> in the sense of separation are streams the run side by side and intertwined in the Bible. When Adam rebelled against God’s rule he first died spiritually <em>and then</em> physically, though the physical death entered as a sort of decay that affected not only humans, but also all of creation (Romans 8:22). Thus for the redeemed, as we died first spiritually so we will come to life first spiritually. And as we died second physically, so will we be resurrected second physically (Romans 8:23-25, cf. 1 Cor. 15). So then, our spiritual “life” should be contrasted with our spiritual “death”, not our physical “death” – for that is contrasted with our resurrection. The question then becomes which category does the spiritual death fall into, inanimate or separation? The answer, I believe, it quite obvious: separation!</p>
<p>When Adam died spiritually, his death was one of separation from God to which physical death – inanimate death – would follow: Adam was exiled from God’s presence and into the “curse” – there, see that, your three dominant negative motifs! (I should add, because I don’t want to get off on another long and fascinating subject, that of course God is “omnipresent”, but there is a clear sense in the scriptures of some being removed <em>from</em> God’s presence in a relational way, which, in the Old Testament, was illustrated by actual events. This comes out clearest in Adam’s exile from the garden and Israel’s exile from the Promised Land.) In the great covenantal passage of Deuteronomy 27-30 Israel was warned that if they remained faithful to God they would prosper in the “land”, they would “live” and be “blessed” (the three positive motifs), but if they did not remain faithful to God – i.e. if they were found to be ‘in Adam’ – they would be exiled from the land, fall under a curse, and die (cf. Deut. 30:19).</p>
<p>I rehash this simply to point out the fact that the motif of spiritual death is not conceived of as an inability to choose, to see, to hear or to taste. I think most Calvinists along with Arminians all qualify “death” at some point to allow for human choices. Calvinists say, for example, that humans cannot choose at all because they are “stone cold” as the Calvinist Jerry Johnson put it. But then he is quick to qualify the deadness of the human by saying that he <em>can</em> make choices, just not good ones. By formulating the argument this way that Calvinist sees the Arminian as having really only two options: 1) admit you’re a semi-Pelagian or 2) become a Calvinist. But we shouldn’t be afraid to remind the Calvinist that Paul’s categories and Calvin’s categories are not always the same (don’t even get me going on justification!). We should be Bible Christians, and when the biblical writers use different categories than our favorite traditions we shouldn’t be afraid to call that tradition out and take steps towards a corrective measure!</p>
<p>When Paul says, for example, in Ephesians 2 that we were dead in our transgressions and sins, he is not speaking of death in the physical “inanimate” sense transposed on to a spiritual reality. Rather he is speaking specifically of a spiritual death, which is a separation from God as a result of our “transgressions and sins” in which we were servants of the “ruler of the kingdom of the air” rather than God’s Kingdom. Because we were separated from God on merit of being “in Adam”, all we had was our lustful desires, our sin nature, our hostility toward the divine since – really when it comes down to it – the original sin (perhaps all sins) was idolatry, the great worship of self (which is another one of those major metanarrative motifs we discussed). We were – yes! – incapable of coming to God on our own – use the phrase Totally Depraved if you wish. But that is precisely why the means of redemption was by God becoming man, coming down – as it were – to be the second Adam and reverse the affects of the fall (see Phil. 2:5-11 resulting in Eph. 2:5-6). We were dead not in the sense of being “inanimate” and having no ability to choose one way or another, rather we were dead in the sense of having a severed relationship with God and no desire for a relationship with him. It is only by God exposing himself to us, by drawing us by his Spirit and by offering us “life in Christ” (“it is by grace you have been saved”) that we are able to appropriate that grace through faith, which is how God “made us alive in Christ” (Eph. 2:8, 5).</p>
<h3>Conclusion:</h3>
<p>Given that the Bible speaks of salvation in terms of <em>reconciliation</em> having been <em>united</em> with Christ, being once <em>friends</em> with the world and now are <em>aliens</em> and <em>strangers</em> in it and having once been <em>enemies</em> to God, it’s mindboggling that we have taken for granted that “death” in Paul’s mind must mean “inanimateness” rather than “separation”!</p>
<p>We subtly and subconsciously interpret “dead” in Ephesians 2 to mean <em>inanimateness</em> rather than <em>separation</em>. We then ask questions about what kind of “will” the dead person might have, if any. We then make comments about them being “stone cold” and in some cases we jump to extreme conclusions that a person who is not a Christian cannot love. A mother who is not a Christian cannot love her child, a husband who is not a Christian cannot love his wife because a dead person can no more love than feel, taste or choose. All of this because we have assumed that when Paul says “dead” he means “spiritually inanimate”. And even if some of us in the Calvinist/Arminian tradition don’t take that extreme position, we still wrestle with the question of the human will in light of a person’s inanimateness prior to salvation.</p>
<p>The whole debate here – believed upon by many because it sounds so simple and true on the surface – can be avoided by placing Paul’s category of “dead” in it’s proper place.</p>
<p>When a person is said to be spiritually dead, it means that they are spiritually separated from God and unable – so long as they remain in their trespasses and sins – to reconcile that relationship (which is why God sent his son to do that and has given us the ministry of reconciliation according to 2 Corinthians 5). Thus – I believe according to Paul’s own category – spiritual death does not convey the idea that a person is unable to take hold of the life preserver (for that is to think of spiritual death according to the inanimate nature of physical death), but rather that a person is doomed below (and perhaps doesn’t know it and doesn’t want help – so our drowning man analogy falls short of conveying the current state of humanity, as all analogies fall short) unable to fly out of the ocean, but God comes from above and lowers the life preserve, Jesus Christ, at which point our doomed character who is dead to God may accept the command to be united and enter God’s Kingdom (obviously this is appropriated by faith), or reject God’s Kingdom and continue to wallow with the swine.</p>
<p>And by &#8220;accept&#8221; I don&#8217;t mean to imply that the person has made themselves alive. Remember that the other side of this coin is that whereas death conveyed separation life conveys reconciliation, a restoration of the broken relationship, which is something God does through Christ. That is, people are &#8220;made alive&#8221; <em>by God</em> (God brings them into right relationship with them) when they accept God&#8217;s grace by the appropriation of faith (as Ephesians 2:8-9 clear teaches).</p>
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		<title>Imputation Confusion Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek Ouellette</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really struggle with the idea that we Christians have been &#8220;MADE&#8221; righteous by God through the process of having been &#8220;Imputed&#8221; Christ&#8217; righteousness. There seems to be loads of confusion swirling around this subject. For example; how do we &#8230; <a href="http://covenantoflove.net/reformed-theology-theology/calvinism-reformed-theology-theology/imputation-confusion-part-1/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I really struggle with the idea that we Christians have been &#8220;MADE&#8221; righteous by God through the process of having been &#8220;Imputed&#8221; Christ&#8217; righteousness. There seems to be loads of confusion swirling around this subject. For example; how do we define &#8220;righteous&#8221;? Is &#8220;righteous&#8221; a reference to someone&#8217;s moral standing, as in &#8220;perfect&#8221;? Or should we define &#8220;righteous&#8221; as someone&#8217;s relative moral standing, as in a &#8220;righteous character with occasional flaws&#8221;? Or is &#8220;righteous&#8221; a word we use to describe someones temporal moral standing, as in being righteous until one sins and then repenting in order to be righteous again? Or is &#8220;righteous&#8221; to be understood in a more contextual manner, that someone is righteous regarding a specific thing? Are there various stages to being &#8220;righteous&#8221; so that it could be said that one person is <em>more </em>righteous then another person?</p>
<p>Next we have to deal with the issue of confusion revolving around the word &#8220;justification&#8221; as it relates to &#8220;righteousness&#8221;. Do these two words communicate the same thing? Or is there a notable difference between these two words?</p>
<p>And finally we need to deal with the word &#8220;imputation&#8221; itself. What does &#8220;impute&#8221; mean? Is imputation a &#8220;physical or spiritual transfer of something from one person onto another&#8221;? Or does it mean to &#8220;declare&#8221;, &#8220;consider&#8221; or &#8220;reckon&#8221; something onto someone? In other words, to put this question in some sort of context, does &#8220;impute&#8221; mean that every person has actually received or committed Adam&#8217;s original sin so that you and I are actually guilty of committing Adam&#8217;s sin apart from any sin we might commit? In light of Romans 5, are you and I then &#8220;imputed&#8221; Christ&#8217;s rightesousness in light of his faithful obedience to God on the cross, dying in our place? If this is the case, is &#8220;righteous&#8221; then defined as a faithful obedience to God in the context of dying on the cross so that it could be said, Christ died on the cross and <em>I received his righteousness in that act</em> so that any sins or disobedient lifestyles I choose to live today are irrevelent? In this way I have been &#8220;MADE&#8221; (i.e. imputed) righteous, regardless of a sinful lifestyle. Is this what imputated righteousness (i.e. the doctrine of &#8220;Imputation&#8221;) boils down too?</p>
<p>How can we be &#8220;made righteous&#8221; (a moral reality) when in <em>actual </em>reality we are not living righteous lives (<em>actual </em>moral reality)?</p>
<p>These and other questions I&#8217;ll be exploring over the next few weeks.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[As is well known to casual readers of Covenant of Love, I am a fan of N.T. Wright and I do not appreciate John Piper very much. (I was a not a fan of John Piper long before these two &#8230; <a href="http://covenantoflove.net/theology/wright-and-piper-go-face-to-face-nope-piper-backs-out/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Wright-Piper.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2614" title="Wright Piper" src="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Wright-Piper.png" alt="" width="498" height="126" /></a>As is well known to casual readers of Covenant of Love, I am a fan of N.T. Wright and I do not appreciate John Piper very much. (I was a not a fan of John Piper long before these two came to clash.) At the <a href="http://www.etsjets.org/annual_meeting_overview" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.etsjets.org/annual_meeting_overview?referer=');">Evangelical Theological Society&#8217;s 62nd Annual Meeting</a>, the topic is Justification by Faith and both N.T. Wright and John Piper were invited to be plenary speakers for this event. Taking the position I do, the &#8220;dialogue&#8221; would have essentially amounted to Wright embarrising John Piper in my opinion. Even fans of Piper usually acknowledge that simply put, him and Wright are in completely separate leagues (Tom being in the Big Leagues and Piper in the Minors).</p>
<p>Still, I am amazed that some bloggers holdout underdog hopes with a great deal of misguided confidence that John Piper is more then up to the task, that he would somehow be able to sweep Wright aside, that it would somehow amount to little more than a walk in the park of Piper. I have no clever response to that, I simply stand in awe that someone could reasonably think such a thing.</p>
<p>But I saw Wright at the Wheaton Conferences. His respectability, his humility, his willingness to engage other perspectives, to think through reasonable critiques of his work by his opponents, and sometimes to consider their suggestions for further dialogue. I think the question of &#8220;who would win&#8221; or &#8220;who would lose&#8221; in a debate between John Piper and N.T. Wright is, from Wright&#8217;s perspective and probably from the perspective of Wrightians, irrelevant.</p>
<p>John Piper has written against Tom Wright (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Justification-Response-N-Wright/dp/1581349645/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1281796107&amp;sr=8-1" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/Future-Justification-Response-N-Wright/dp/1581349645/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8_amp_s=books_amp_qid=1281796107_amp_sr=8-1&amp;referer=');">The Future of Justification: A Response to N.T. Wright</a>), and Tom has written a response (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Justification-Gods-Plan-Pauls-Vision/dp/0830838635/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1281796107&amp;sr=8-2" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/Justification-Gods-Plan-Pauls-Vision/dp/0830838635/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8_amp_s=books_amp_qid=1281796107_amp_sr=8-2&amp;referer=');">Justification: God&#8217;s Plan Paul&#8217;s Vision</a>). I think it would have been beneficial, even crucial, for these two men to have met and to get to know each other&#8217;s personalities. Who knows, maybe an unlikely friendship is lurking right around the corner.</p>
<p>Alas we may never know. For reasons which are unclear to me, the ETS announced:</p>
<blockquote><p>We had previously announced that Pastor John Piper would be one of our  plenary speakers at the November meeting of the Evangelical Theological  Society in Atlanta addressing the theme of “Justification By Faith.”   Unfortunately, Pastor Piper has had to withdraw from his involvement in  this meeting in conjunction with an eight-month leave of absence that he  will be taking from his ministry assignments. (<a href="http://www.etsjets.org/annual_meeting_overview" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.etsjets.org/annual_meeting_overview?referer=');">Here</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>The last time I am aware that Piper took a leave of absence from his ministry responsibilities, it was to write a book against N.T. Wright (Future of Justification, p.10). Is it possible that he has chosen to forgo an opportunity to meet the good Bishop so that he might rather write another book against him? Nah, pure conjecture. I wish to attempt to give Piper the benefit of the doubt (however difficult that may be) and believe that he has not backed out of this engagement for fear of the humble Bishop or intimidation of the Bishops godly presence and vast knowledge.</p>
<p>In any case, Piper has been substituted by <a href="http://www.sbts.edu/theology/faculty/thomas-schreiner/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.sbts.edu/theology/faculty/thomas-schreiner/?referer=');">Thomas R. Schreiner</a>, an expert in Pauline scholarship and (by all accounts) a better match with Tom Wright. Tom and Tom will share a discussion panel and engage each other on the subject of Justification by Faith. It is my hope that this discussion panel and lectures of Tom W and Tom S will be made available via on-line in the same way that the Wheaton Conference lectures were. The ETS meeting will be held in Atlanta GA on November 17-19, 2010. Praying for a good and fruitful engagement!</p>
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		<title>More on Justification (Faith and Works)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek Ouellette</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If what I said in the last post is correct, can it be that by the doctrine of sola fide we have created a false dichotomy between &#8220;faith and works&#8221; in regards to Justification? Here is Galatians 2:15-16: We ourselves &#8230; <a href="http://covenantoflove.net/in-christ/more-on-justification-faith-and-works/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what I said in the<a href="http://covenantoflove.net/in-christ/biblical-concept-vs-doctrine-of-justification/"> last post</a> is correct, can it be that by the doctrine of <em>sola fide</em> we have created a false dichotomy between &#8220;faith and works&#8221; in regards to Justification? Here is Galatians 2:15-16:</p>
<blockquote><p>We ourselves are Jews by birth, and not gentile sinners, yet we know that a person is not justified by doing what the law requires, but rather by the faithfulness of Jesus the Messiah. We, too, have believed in the Messiah Jesus so that we might be justified by the faithfulness of the Messiah and not by doing what the law requires<strong>, </strong>for no human being will be justified by doing what the law requires. &#8211; Galatians 2:15-16 ISV</p></blockquote>
<p>For starters, the phrase &#8220;law requires&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;good works&#8221;. There are a lot of people in the world today who think that they are &#8220;good&#8221; enough to &#8220;get into heaven&#8221;. But Paul is not writing to them, he is writing to &#8220;we who are Jews by birth&#8221;. For a Jew, the &#8220;law&#8221; was a reference to the covenant charter of Israel &#8211; specifically Deuteronomy 28. If they remained obedient to the law (i.e. God) they would remain <strong>in </strong>the covenant (vs. 1-14), but if they rejected the law they would be removed from the covenant (vs. 15ff.). So his readers would have understood his statement as: No person can be justified by obeying the Torah &#8211; remember the Exile? &#8211; but there is One who has been faithful to the covenant of God, and by his faithfulness (or obedience &#8211; Philippians 2:8) we are justified!</p>
<p>Notice the key point which Paul is making here: no one is justified by their <strong>obedience </strong>but we are justified by Christ&#8217;s <strong>obedience</strong>. Now notice the key point which Paul is <strong>not </strong>making here: <em>he is <strong>not </strong>saying that one is justified by faith and not by works</em>. This is one of those important implications in this debate which is bubbling under many Reformers skins.</p>
<p>The closer we get to comprehending this distinction the closer we come to happily embracing other often neglected passages about justification:</p>
<blockquote><p>You observe that a person is justified through actions and <em>not through faith alone</em>. &#8211; James 2:24 (Luther had a good mind to reject James all together because of <em>sola fide</em>)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, <em>but the doers of the law who will be justified</em>. &#8211; Romans 2:13</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>For <em>by your words you will be justified</em>, and by your words you will be condemned. &#8211; Matthew 12:37 (a passage about bearing fruit in your life in keeping with repentance)</p></blockquote>
<p>We are saved by grace <strong><em>through </em></strong>faith &#8211; there is nothing we can do to save ourselves (Ephesians 2:8-9), and when this happens we join the body of Christ and are <em>therefore </em>justified! All of this is possible because of Christ&#8217;s faithfulness to God on the cross (Philippians 2:5-11).</p>
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		<title>Justified By His Faithfulness &#8211; Romans 3:22</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek Ouellette</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a post by another blogger recently titled &#8220;Made Righteous in Christ Jesus&#8220;. It is a well written post explaining and defending the traditional Reformed doctrine of the imputation of Christ&#8217; righteousness. But as the post takes flight the &#8230; <a href="http://covenantoflove.net/in-christ/not-by-faith-a-new-paradigm-romans-322/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a post by another blogger recently titled &#8220;<a title="Arminian Today" href="http://arminiantoday.blogspot.com/2010/01/made-righteous-in-christ-jesus.html" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/arminiantoday.blogspot.com/2010/01/made-righteous-in-christ-jesus.html?referer=');"><em>Made Righteous in Christ Jesus</em></a>&#8220;. It is a well written post explaining and defending the traditional Reformed doctrine of the imputation of Christ&#8217; righteousness.</p>
<p>But as the post takes flight the blogger focuses all of his energy on being made righteous <em>by having faith in Jesus</em>. In other words, there is subtle move from understanding being justified as a matter of &#8220;Incorporation/Participation&#8221; (<em>being </em>in Christ) to being imputed righteousness by having faith in Christ (<em>believing </em>in Christ).</p>
<p>I think this shift happens without thought and I think it is a mistake. I believe we are not made righteous by having faith in Jesus (that is how we are saved &#8211; Eph 2:8-9). But we are made righteous <em>by Jesus&#8217; own faithfulness!</em></p>
<p>Consider Romans 3:22:</p>
<blockquote><p>This righteousness from God comes through <em>faith in Jesus Christ</em> to all who believe. – NIV</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Romans-322-Greek.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1061" title="Romans 322 Greek" src="http://covenantoflove.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Romans-322-Greek.jpg" alt="" width="460" height="30" /></a></p>
<p>Notice the NIV reads, &#8220;faith <em>in </em>Jesus Christ&#8221;. But the Greek reads, &#8220;faith <em>of</em> Jesus Christ&#8221; (look it up). And since the Greek word for faith can at the same time be translated &#8220;faithfulness&#8221;, I think the passage should be rendered, &#8220;<em>faithfulness of </em>Jesus Christ&#8221;.</p>
<p>Think about it for a moment. The passage makes no sense at all if it says &#8220;faith in&#8221; because Paul would be exercising his right to redundancy: &#8220;Through faith [believing] in Jesus Christ to all who believe&#8221; &#8211; obviously Paul, why add, &#8220;to all who believe&#8221; if you already said, &#8220;through faith [believing]&#8220;?</p>
<p>I think the passage makes better sense this way: &#8220;Righteousness of God comes through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ to all who believe&#8221;. Now doesn&#8217;t that make more sense?</p>
<p>When we believe we become participators <em>in </em>Christ, taking on his righteousness, a righteousness he claims by way of his faithfulness to God by being obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross (Philippians 2:6-11).</p>
<blockquote><p>God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that<em> in him</em> we might become the righteousness of God – 2 Corinthians 5:21</p></blockquote>
<p>The doctrine of imputation is always talked about a part from the doctrine of participation. I think this is a mistake.</p>
<p>The doctrine of imputation should <em>never </em>be talked about a part from the doctrine of participation.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a title="Arminian Today" href="http://arminiantoday.blogspot.com/2010/01/made-righteous-in-christ-jesus.html" target="_blank" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/arminiantoday.blogspot.com/2010/01/made-righteous-in-christ-jesus.html?referer=');">(Note: the article I referenced above is otherwise a great post!)</a></p>
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