Comments on: Time To Unlearn A Few Things http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/time-to-unlearn-a-few-things/ Mon, 21 May 2012 17:19:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Derek Ouellette http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/time-to-unlearn-a-few-things/#comment-522 Derek Ouellette Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:35:21 +0000 http://covenantoflove.net/?p=2053#comment-522 That's great xTraex, we'll learn and grow together! Keep your questions coming. Dialogue is one of the best ways to grow. .-= Derek Ouellette´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CovenantOfLove/~3/dPop6b2-KYo/" rel="nofollow">Cov-of-Luv Summer Reading Giveaway</a> =-. That’s great xTraex, we’ll learn and grow together! Keep your questions coming. Dialogue is one of the best ways to grow.
.-= Derek Ouellette´s last blog ..Cov-of-Luv Summer Reading Giveaway =-.

]]> By: xTraex http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/time-to-unlearn-a-few-things/#comment-519 xTraex Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:39:37 +0000 http://covenantoflove.net/?p=2053#comment-519 Hmm. I did not know it was Plato who said God was timeless. I definitely get your point, the same thought crossed my mind when my friend asked me why does God have emotion at all (as if he should be some sort of emotionless "Galactus" if you will), I didn't know the answer back then, I do now. I actually thought of your answer later on that day, we "share" emotions (with God)because well he created us in his image, so I definitely get that. Seems I was thinking from a human centered position. Oh, I also had no clue that no one actually "critiqued" the Greek gods. I assumed we did. But I'll definitely be following you as you further research Open Theology. Hmm. I did not know it was Plato who said God was timeless. I definitely get your point, the same thought crossed my mind when my friend asked me why does God have emotion at all (as if he should be some sort of emotionless “Galactus” if you will), I didn’t know the answer back then, I do now. I actually thought of your answer later on that day, we “share” emotions (with God)because well he created us in his image, so I definitely get that. Seems I was thinking from a human centered position. Oh, I also had no clue that no one actually “critiqued” the Greek gods. I assumed we did. But I’ll definitely be following you as you further research Open Theology.

]]> By: Derek Ouellette http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/time-to-unlearn-a-few-things/#comment-511 Derek Ouellette Sat, 29 May 2010 18:51:04 +0000 http://covenantoflove.net/?p=2053#comment-511 Thanks xTraex, Your concern is very real and needs to be guarded against. But let me ask you this, are fathers like their sons or would you say that sons are like their fathers? When the question is worded the way your last sentence words it there is an assumption that we are making God "human... a creation of the imagination"; i.e., we're making God like us. But I look at it the other way around: we are human, a creation of God's imagination and made in His image to be like him (Gen 1:26). So I'm not surprised that the scriptures depict God as emotional, because he's our Dad and we are emotional beings who take after Him. Now as far as the gods of Greek mythology go, no one critiques them because we all acknowledge they don't exist. There is also worlds apart from how God is depicted by the Hebrews and how the Greek myth gods are. But here's the irony, in ancient Hellenistic culture the elite, upper class and and intelligence (i.e. philosophers and those they influenced) came up with philosophical ideas of "if a god did exist, this is what he would be like". So Aristotle came up with the concept of the Unmoved Mover and Plato spoke of God as being "immutable", "timeless" and so on. The Hebrew testimony of God is quote different from this as I've been trying to show. Yet if you pick up a book on the attributes of God today you will not get the Hebrew Testimony, but the Greek Platonic testimony of God. .-= Derek Ouellette´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CovenantOfLove/~3/G89OqAZDvfE/" rel="nofollow">Pentecost: When The Spirit Came</a> =-. Thanks xTraex,

Your concern is very real and needs to be guarded against. But let me ask you this, are fathers like their sons or would you say that sons are like their fathers? When the question is worded the way your last sentence words it there is an assumption that we are making God “human… a creation of the imagination”; i.e., we’re making God like us.

But I look at it the other way around: we are human, a creation of God’s imagination and made in His image to be like him (Gen 1:26). So I’m not surprised that the scriptures depict God as emotional, because he’s our Dad and we are emotional beings who take after Him.

Now as far as the gods of Greek mythology go, no one critiques them because we all acknowledge they don’t exist. There is also worlds apart from how God is depicted by the Hebrews and how the Greek myth gods are. But here’s the irony, in ancient Hellenistic culture the elite, upper class and and intelligence (i.e. philosophers and those they influenced) came up with philosophical ideas of “if a god did exist, this is what he would be like”. So Aristotle came up with the concept of the Unmoved Mover and Plato spoke of God as being “immutable”, “timeless” and so on. The Hebrew testimony of God is quote different from this as I’ve been trying to show. Yet if you pick up a book on the attributes of God today you will not get the Hebrew Testimony, but the Greek Platonic testimony of God.
.-= Derek Ouellette´s last blog ..Pentecost: When The Spirit Came =-.

]]> By: xTraex http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/time-to-unlearn-a-few-things/#comment-507 xTraex Sat, 29 May 2010 11:52:41 +0000 http://covenantoflove.net/?p=2053#comment-507 This is definitely shaking what I thought I knew of God (and that wasn't much). The only thing I'm having a problem with is that with this "Unsettling God" are we not subjecting Him to the same mythological gods of the greeks. Can this not open God up to the same critiques we used against them? A God so "human" that he is merely a creation of the imagination? This is definitely shaking what I thought I knew of God (and that wasn’t much). The only thing I’m having a problem with is that with this “Unsettling God” are we not subjecting Him to the same mythological gods of the greeks. Can this not open God up to the same critiques we used against them? A God so “human” that he is merely a creation of the imagination?

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